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[stardust_rifle]

Sometimes, I want to go up to those people that argue that authors should be able to say "I don't want people to make incest/underage/kinky/any porn of my characters" and ask them if they think that authors should be allowed to say "no gay porn".

I don't have any preference either way, I just think it'd be interesting.

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[feotakahari]

I’ve seen an author do “no one should be allowed to make any porn of my characters ever.” He was a prick.

[sigmaleph]

I think this goes into like, are you using the kinds of norms for interaction between friends or between some faceless entity you don't know

if your friend is upset about incest it'd be rude of you to say "look, i made incest porn of your thing". if your friend is upset about gay stuff... well, that's pretty suspicious. are they homophobic? should you still be friends with them?

we don't see ourselves as owing any of those considerations to a faceless entity, tho. incest porn of a popular tv show isn't something you do *at* the writers, it's a thing you do. if you think incest porn is ok ever, you probably think it's ok even about things whose authors don't like it, for the same reason most people would not consider "don't write trans HP fics out of deference to JK rowling" a social norm they'd obey.

[stardust_rifle]

But, like, when do you cross the line from "friend" to "faceless entity you don't know"?

The example I thought of when I was making this post was of a Youtube creator who interacts a lot with their fans in a Discord server. Are they a friend? Probably not, but they're not a "faceless entity" either.

[sigmaleph]

yeah, there's this sort of grey area with smaller creators who interact a bunch with their audience.

honestly I think you should default to faceless entity norms there too, by which i mean: 1) write whatever you want but 2) don't @ them on discord over it, essentially. But i see why people don't see that as clear-cut a case as tv producers et al.